LGA’s key issues with ASCNB proposals


The LGA has a number of issues relating to different aspects of the establishment of the ASCNB. In brief, they are:

  • sufficient funding will be required to ensure that Fair Pay Agreements (FPAs) can be implemented without adversely impacting local government budgets, services and jobs
  • local government representation on the ASCNB both as an employer and in relation to its role as social care commissioners
  • equal pay risks to councils could increase as a result of creation of a different negotiating body for directly employed staff.

Detailed information on the LGA issues

More detailed information on the LGA issues are set out below using the same sequence of headings as in the consultation:

  • negotiating body
  • negotiation process
  • coverage and remit
  • dispute resolution
  • implementation
  • compliance and enforcement
  • equalities impact and equal pay.

The LGA will respond to the consultation, and we urge councils to submit their own responses too. The LGA has discussed the potential need for councils to submit consultation responses that go beyond the parameters of the online response form (which has limits in some sections of 250 words) and the DHSC has agreed that councils may use this email address [email protected]  to submit views.  To help us at the LGA, please copy submissions to [email protected] 


LGA engagement with DHSC

The LGA has been engaging with the DHSC, and a working group from the sector including ADASS, provider bodies - such as the Care Providers Alliance, the TUC and trade unions, since November 2024. The SoS for Health and Social Care, as well as Minister for Care, Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister for Employment Rights have attended working group meetings.

The LGA made a significant number of comments and has raised issues both in these meetings and in writing, however we remain concerned on some significant points.

These matters, and concerns set out below, are ones that you may wish to consider in relation to your own council and the provision of adult social care in your communities. 

We encourage you to use the consultation to set out your views and comments either through the online consultation form or through a direct submission.


LGA comments

Adult social care negotiating body


Negotiation process

The consultation asks ‘Is there anything else that you think a letter from the Secretary of State should set out?’. The letter from the Secretary of State should make clear to all parties that all costs arising from fair pay agreements will be met by central government.


Coverage and remit

The consultation asks whether there are staff who should be excluded for this new negotiating body’s coverage. The consultation also asks whether staff covered by the NJC (Green Book) should be in the ASCNB.

The LGA believes that directly employed local government ASC workers should remain within local government’s national (or local where appropriate) collective bargaining (NJC/Green Book) and be, at least initially, out of scope of the ASCNB. This could be reviewed in subsequent years.

Given that front-line care workers employed by councils earn, on average, above the rates paid by private sector care employers (and have additional benefits such as a high quality sickness scheme, above statutory annual leave, and access to the Local Government Pension Scheme), the initial fair pay agreements are unlikely to be of benefit to council employed adult social care staff.

The consultation suggests that workers can be covered by the ASCNB as well as another negotiating body, but this is not the case for those staff covered by the Local Government Services NJC. The constitution of the ‘Green Book’ precludes those covered by it from also being covered by another negotiating body so this would remove adult social care staff from the ‘Green Book’ pay settlements etc... The LGA is concerned about the increased equal pay risk (both set out below) and industrial action risk (both set out below under ‘Equalities Impact’) posed by the creation of the ASCNB, particularly if council employed ASC staff are covered by the new body.

If council employed ASC staff are included within the scope of the FPA this could raise concerns in relation to differential rates of pay/pay rises being applicable to adults’ and children’s social care staff. In addition to those providing care, those in scope also includes qualified social workers, occupational therapists, supervisors and managers and Directors of Adult Social Services.

Local authorities may well want to comment on this as part of the consultation. The consultation asks about coverage directly (and also in the question “Are there any settings, services or roles that you think should be excluded from the ASC Negotiating Body’s coverage?”).


Dispute resolution

The LGA disagrees with the approach to dispute resolution set out as it does not sufficiently include representation from local government. As currently proposed, an entire dispute resolution process could take place without input from local government even though any agreement will depend on local government for successful implementation. 


Implementation

As stated above, successful implementation will depend on full central government funding, clear and extensive communications and the engagement of councils.


Compliance and enforcement

Successful compliance will depend on the factors set out above (funding and communication). There will need to be government support for the local government if the consequences of implementing an FPA leads to impacts on other parts of local government service provision and/or jobs.


Equalities impact


New burdens

The consultation states that the DHSC “...have considered whether fair pay agreements would represent a new burden for local government under the new burdens doctrine. Our assessment is that, at this stage, there is no new burden.” The LGA is concerned the implementation of the ASCNB and future Fair Pay Agreements may well constitute significant ‘new and additional’ work and require substantial resources from councils and you may wish to comment on this in your submission.